Produce Safety Educators Call #39: Updates from the PSA

Produce Safety Educators Call #39: Updates from the PSA


Right Good afternoon everyone we will go
ahead and get started this is Gretchen Wall coordinator of the Produce Safety Alliance.
Welcome to our monthly produce safety educators call this one was rescheduled
we originally had scheduled this for July so we had to move that a little bit
shift the dates around so thanks for your patience and for
joining us on this call today so as with all of our other educators
group webinars all participants are muted if you’re logged in on line
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to all the questions and comments but you can always leave comments in the chat
box in will be sure to get back to you via email or phone call and
we are recording the session so if you check back on our
website in a day or so if you have to drop off the car the whole
session is recorded and will post and send the notes out a few
days after the call. On today’s call we really wanted to focus
on some of the things that have been happening lately the first thing we’ll
talk about is our special session as International Association for food
protection meeting that happened in July and then Beth, she’s going to talk about the
newly released version 1.2 of the P.S.A. grower training curriculum as well as the
launch of our Spanish website and the future Spanish lead trainer process
we’ll talk more about that and then we’ll wrap things up with Donna
talking about some of our additional projects and initiatives including
our on line course the 00 R.E.I. models advanced training in
mentoring opportunities and I should clarify Donna, the online
training is going to be in Betsy but not yours sorry, I should move should move that
off the agenda didn’t want to scare you. So we’ll start with the IAFP. Special session that was hosted on
Monday July 22nd from 5:30 to 7 pm in Louisville we had a really great turnout
so we appreciate all those who are able to adjoining the session primarily we talked
about some of P.S.A.’s training progress and out outreach activities. Dr Samir Assar also gave a presentation about F.D.A.’s current activities with regard to
education outreach and then Betsy wrapped up with some of the P.S.A. goals moving
forward happy to share those presentation slides with anybody if they’re interested
it was not recorded I know some of you are IAFP members and sessions are
typically recorded and posted online but this was a special sort of after hours
sessions a while trying that online but I’m more than happy to send you the power
points that we use during the presentation. In addition we had a really fabulous
panel discussion with members including Mr. Michael Botelho from
Massachusetts Ms. Kristen Esch from Michigan and Ms. Teressa Lopez from Arizona and they
shared their experiences and perspectives regarding managing their state CAP programs
we talked a lot about the state of the States in helping farmers prepare
for their visitation and that was facilitated by Donna Clements thanks to everyone who
was involved in that special session and we hope to do more activities like this
in the future where we know quite a few PSA trainers, lead trainers, and other educators are at regional meetings to provide are update. But that I’m going to turn over to
Betty to talk more about Version 1.2 of the curriculum. Thanks Gretchen, I kind of wanted to pause and see if anybody on the call was at that session or I guess just let us know if you
attended that session and they didn’t it was valuable to let us know what kind
of information would be valuable because. We’re constantly trying to keep people. Involved and aware of what we’re doing so
I don’t know anybody has anything to add about that session we certainly
appreciate, I saw Chris was on the call but, we certainly appreciated the collaboration we have with the state but we’re always open for more input. If you guys have suggestions so I guess I’ll leave it at that unless
somebody wants to unmute themselves and chime in. OK So hopefully you all are aware that we
now have a version 1.2, this will be the 3rd version of the curriculum
starting with 1.0 going to 1.1 and now to 1.2 was released in July of
2019 and really just a month ago so the big things that need to be aware
of are is that it includes updates to subpart E. Is really an extension of compliance dates you know our typical keeping track of typographical errors and
other organizational edits We did, as you can tell
from the cover we did add a lot of new photos trying to up
the diversity that’s reflected and sort of give it a new look people
also had certain criticisms of some of our pictures so we wanted to address
those because they were they were good criticisms that we needed to address so
there have been those update there is a complete change blog and
summarized list of changes available we are currently translated into
Version 1.2 That is almost done and will trundle off to the printer we are
looking to have that in hand by October 31st but the files will be
available as soon as we can get that done. Time flies can I advance these
No I think that’s a new. Version 1.1 use policies, you
can still use version 1.1 But if you do you have to include the list
of things that are on the slides right so you have to present this slide that
includes the updates in F.D.A. announcements regarding agricultural water
if you have to take those slides and put them in a Power Point make sure
they’re presented and you have to provide a hand out of the slides and the notes to attendees so that they have a copy of the slides and the notes. It is also critically important that
the trainer review the critical edit sheet so you guys know what has changed so
what big things we changed in 1.2 so you can incorporate those into
1.1 that your presenting. OK if you’re using 1.2 then you don’t
have to do these additional things because they already incorporated in but if you’re
using version 1.1 because you have a few extras left and you have some training
coming up that, that’s what we would like you to do. Now we found out. Our policy that was printed when we. Released 1.1 was that you
could use version 1.0 until there was a new version so
when we released 1.1 we had a little know note it said you
can use version 1.0 until a new version came along.
OK now there’s a new version. We have become aware that
people have stock of these things and so in trying to balance what
people are doing we are giving people until December 31st of this
year to use up version 1.0. Now you’re going to have
two sets of edits there which is why we would like to see 1.0s completely out of usage and as of January one we don’t want to
see Version 1.0 in use. So you have to present the slides that
include those updates that we just talked about with 1.1, you have to provide
that hand out of those slides and those notes as well. Also you need to review the critical edits sheet for delivering both of them, right, so
they have to know what we changed from 1.1, 1.0 to 1.1 and 1.1 to 1.2. And it’s best to use obviously 1.2 because the changes are there and it’s easier to use it but if you’re trying
to burn up those 1.0s you’re going to have to as a presenter be cognizant of all
of the changes that have occurred OK And are there any questions about. Next slide. Thanks Gretchen. As a reminder just so
we’re also on the same page if you are using version 1.0 or
version 1.1 or version 1.2 your Power Point
should match the printed manual So if you’re using an a version 1.0 manual, use the version 1.0 slides that, with the additional stuff
put in there to make sure they have additional slide information if you
are having a training, make sure everybody in the training has the same
manual and so if it if you have 10 version 1.1 you can buy additional version 1.1 out of the book store
to use up the rest of the 1.1 but just make sure all the participants
have the same version otherwise it’s going to be a little bit of chaos in
the room and people are going to feel that it’s unfair. We again right now you should
be using 1.1 or 1.2 as with the previous versions
when we release the new version we’re going to try and
phase out the old version. And and
I know where we run into trouble with people have a grand on in that they need
to spend so they tend to backlog a book at this point we have no intention
of doing another version but we can only react to
the information that’s coming out. And as they release new information or
as they change we feel like it’s important to update
the curriculum when it’s something. So that’s where we’re at and can give you
a timeframe leading forward other than at this point we’re hopeful that
the 1.2 will be around. Are there any questions
about that OK Next slide. And I did say I just want to make I
just want to before we get to this but I do just want to make it clear to
everyone that the bookstore has Version 1.1 if you need to round out any
of those classes you can still get version 1.1 in the bookstore
I want to make sure I admit that. As well as 1.2 alright, the other
thing that was on my list to talk about today was our Spanish P.S.A.
website. And this has been launched we’re getting
a lot of traffic on their I happily talk to someone the other day
who told me how useful it was as English is not his 1st language so he
was but it was great that he could go and check out the Spanish website and
and get the information so hopefully you guys can share this with
any of your stakeholders or constituents that my find
it useful we are trying to make sure everything that they’re
everything that educational wide on the English website is here some of
the stuff we don’t have control over if we didn’t create the material but
where we’re concerned where P.S.A. is involved we’re trying to make sure that
this is up to date as with our English site. OK along with this Web
site is really the first. steps in a process of us
developing a lead trainer review process in Spanish so
currently a we have been reviewing lead trainers who are predominant
Spanish speakers with an English format OK so the applications in English it’s
translated. We have English reviewers We have translators, so we have been
reviewing the trainer applications for those who speak Spanish what we’re looking to
do is make that process entirely in Spanish so that the reviewers
speak Spanish the applicant speak Spanish it can be sort of
a flawless system again to match the English system. It will be same as the English a 2-part process so you have you attend the train-the-trainer you fill out that
application before you go to the train- the-trainer we don’t turn anybody away to
attend the train-the-trainer after the train- the-trainer you apply to be a lead trainer
supplemental application process where you get an email it has the questions and
there you answer the question. This is obviously a pretty complex
system because we have to have a duplicate database we have to duplicate
question we also have to recruit and train reviewers who are. Who speak Spanish fluently and go through
all the translation of materials and questions and what have you so
we are in process again the website was sort of the first step in that we’re
now working on these other things and most importantly for
this group we are looking for reviewers so if you know lead trainers who are fluent
in Spanish and you think they would be good at this please get us their names so
we can add them to the list. And. And we’re trying to figure out you know
that training process and trying to vet those candidates so you think you know
a really good candidate please let us. Now, are there any questions on
that before I move to the next? Quiet group today. All right the long awaited P.S.A. grower training online course we’ve been working
on this for a number of years and I want to give you an update on where
we’re at with it and give you some examples of things that are in the course
because we are getting pretty close, Betsy before you jump into that one question did
come in regarding the last part of a question Is there any effort being made
to recruit Spanish speaking farmers and or agricultural workers to be trainers
similar to how some states are using English speaking farmers to provide
multiple perspectives during training OK so we’re not. The P.S.A.
is not actively going out and recruiting. People to be trainers like that like I think what
you’re asking is if we’re encouraging them to attend to train the trainer to come
trainers as I think without question. I would say we as a team are not actively beating the bushes from that perspective
but we obviously would encourage that in the same way we encourage the growers
to become trainers in organizations where they have leadership capacity
because they do bring a lot to the training Gretchen, I can’t see the question because
of my, because of my screening being, not letting me tag out to a different
view so does that answer the question I think it answered the question but
this question came from. Email address so if that’s in answer your
question or scratch the itch feel free to unmute yourself on somebody saying Thanks so
I think it gets to the question. There was a follow up question which is
a really good one is there a plan to host the Spanish language train-the-train
of course in the United States if there is interest we
can certainly do that. And that is actually very good if you’ve
got I think that would be of interest we can absolutely get that done and this one on the list yeah
absolutely this next one isn’t directly related to Spanish training
availability but is about the question is is the English train-the-trainer manual
available online in version 1.2 and I can answer this one we haven’t actually
updated the train-the-trainer manual we may be revisiting that you need to update
some of our policies we have updated the power point presentations that
go along with the train-the-trainer for example the multi-day training list was updated some of the content but we have not updated anything in the train
the trainer manual and we actually don’t post that on line we only make the grower
training manual available online. Any other question? Not that I see. I see a couple suggestions for a potential Spanish lead trainer
review committee members so that’s fantastic keep those coming in my
direction. Yeah thank you very much for that and thank you for the suggestion of
the Spanish train-the-trainer that we can absolutely use. All right so the online version of the course let’s
talk a little bit about that next slide. All right so after the focus groups that
Gretchen and I did around the country talking to growers as well as a review of
evaluations from the national GAPs program we decided to make the format of
the online course instructor lead. So how it will be is that it
will be open, it will be open for probably 3 weeks there will be an
instructor that goes with the course to, to help and to facilitate and to grade
homework’s that are associated with the course so it won’t be on demand it
will be offered in blocks the time. And again will be associated
with an instructor. All of the produce safety rule curriculum requirements, as you know because you guys
train this, you have to show all the slides that are required right all of
those slides are included in the curriculum as well as additional
resources embedded videos and other interactive element to help people understand the information, to keep
them engaged in an online format and to keep that process happening because
unlike a classroom where you’re there and if you’re zoning out the instructor
can see your eyes and know you’re maybe confused and and
can say hey, you look confused what can I do? In an online course we can’t see the students so all of these elements
have been incorporated to help and I’m going to show you some of those
elements moving forward next. So. As with the focus of the current
curriculum the learning assessments are geared towards those curriculum
learning objectives there’s lots of ways to do that there’s built
in quizzes that are sort of self-rated. They give you multiple choice,
matching, fill in the blanks there are some that require feedback and
you’ll see in these required discussions some of them are very intensive
there’s also case studies to try and apply this information directly to things
we have learned from the industry through outbreak so those teachable moments of
this this outbreak happened this is why it happened what do we learn about risk
assessment and implementation of practices to reduce those risks and
again this allows you to have those stories and anecdote that would typically be
shared by an instructor but they’re just incorporated in the course. Last there’s
these required discussions and these can be very intensive. We are going to
pilot this course to see how it goes to make sure they work we’ve already
piloted one of the modules but now that we have a bunch of elements, we’re
going to pilot it again and see how it goes. See how it goes, and see if we need to modify anything but again they’re designed to represent
elements in a farm safety plan elements that help us assess risk to determine
what practices might be valid for reducing those risks and so it’s all built
on this idea of taking information and applying the information to
figure out how to assess risk and put practices in the place we use. Next slide. So, this is a typical page
to give you an idea of what you might see on a slide. You can see
here this is the information that is typically on a slide the worker
qualifications; workers and supervisors must be qualified
to conduct their job duties for education, training, and experience. Now
at the bottom of the slide you’ll see the provision symbol on the left and
you’ll see what looks like a page with a magnifying glass on the right. This screen
right here is the provision one if you click on that it tells you the regulatory
provisions. This is all in your books under the notes section but for the online
delivery this how it’s set up if you go ahead and click the notes with a little
magnifying glass you get the next thing. Right, so this is telling you
that the level of education so these are more of the notes. You can see
the provision on above it that appears on the left hand side of the right hand
side these are the notes you will get and we try to break them out so that we don’t
have running pages some of the notes are some of the notes are very law
in some cases we have put the notes on the side in a “click more” button
if it’s presented in a way so that the learner doesn’t have
to be paging through pages of notes because that’s not good for a good for a larger perspective. Next slide. This is an example of one of the learning
assessments or the internal quizzes. So here’s a quiz instruction they give you
information is 2016 strawberries from Egypt were contaminated with Type A virus it
asks you a question about investigators went to the facility saw the workers
washing their hands. If you’re washing your hands properly how long should
that be for. You can see if you answered, “until our hands are cold”, that you’ll get a “it’s not correct” 20 seconds is the minimum, so it gives
you the right answer tells you which answer is not correct. So these are sort of
self obviously self rated quizzes within the body of the course and again
these learning assessment to help people understand what information is important
that issue of washing your hands. Next slide. Here’s an example of a case study. Again it just gives you a short
summary of what happened. At the bottom the very last paragraph
below you there based on what you learned in Module one. What do you think caused
the strawberries to be contaminated? So we’re asking people to apply the information
they’ve learned and then, in this case, go in the module two where we
focus on things like health and hygiene practices, sanitary facilities, and
all of that so they’re built into the course in places where we think we
can reinforce information that’s been covered or introduce information that will be cut or
in this case a little bit. Next slide. Now there’s require discussions and you’re
going to see on the next slide where it says that this course could take more
time then the 7 hours that they commit to in the course and
that is true you will see here there are. In this discussion topic we ask people
to talk about their farm we also have to build in the possibility of a hypothetical
farm knowing that there are people that can take this course who may not actually
be farm owners. That’s a key part when you see that in the in the first part of the slide we
have to have the ability for people who are not farmers to take the course that we’ve
built in there we’re asking people to. We’re asking people to provide farm specific information asking them to
think about their operation. We then ask them to identify
hazards. What are the things that are hazards in your farm and again in thinking about risk development not every
hazard is going to be your risk but you gotta think about which of
the hazards can develop into risks. OK so we just ask them to apply this
information and then describe a plan for how to reduce the risk once
they have identified them. Next. Who is this intended to I get a lot of
questions about this. The online course could be for growers that have not been
able to make it to a live training course they could be for growers that need the
information because they’ve delayed and there’s no training near them. It’s
looking like the registration costs are going to be over $400.00. It’s looking probably closer to $500.00. Why is that? It’s instructor led.
It takes a lot of times to grade the course it’s also hosted through
eCornell and so we have to pay the hosting cost to have it there. So, It will be expensive and
labor intensive so I don’t think it will compete
with our in person courses. But it does give people an option for
taking a course. Based on the good agricultural practice course we
have it is a little different but I think you can, I think the way
it’s currently designed it would be very productive for the participants and
I think people will get a lot out of it. The course is complete. It is updated
to meet version 1.2 so we had to go through an update it because it was done
to 1.1. We are in the process of the F.D.A. review right now they have to go
through all the engaged elements because they have not reviewed the right. The online or the version 1.2 they’ve already reviewed, so that was pretty
easy to the slides in there but they have to go through all of the elements of engagement and there are a lot of them. We are hoping to have this done and
be able to pilot the course in the fall of 2019 coming up with the goal that we
can launch it for real in 2020 and take students. And and then this note we all of the P.S.A.
team will teach it for a while so we are comfortable with it we understand
what it is depending on the demand and how often we need to offer it
we may be reaching out to find additional paid instructors
after the launch depending on needs. We do intend I offer this
course in Spanish as well. So just so that’s clear that we do
intend to offer it in both language well Old English and
Spanish. There’s more than two languages.
Okay I think that makes me done. Are there any
questions about the online course? Well, Okay. Then I think Donna’s up.
Yep. Betsy already asked everybody, you answered
everybody’s questions preemptively. So in the next couple of slides. This
Donna Clements with a Produce Safety Alliance, in the next couple of slides I’m going to
highlight some of the resources that we’re working on at Produce Safety Alliance, kind of,
sort of in addition to what Gretchen and Betsy have already talked about. So the first thing I wanted to highlight
was the development of a couple of supplemental modules on soil amendments
and this is a project that we are working with in conjunction with
the Organic Center and U.C. Davis. Those are the 2 big collaborators
on this educational section and there’s a number of other collaborators
across the country as well and this is actually in conjunction with
a U.S.D.A. organic research and education initiative grant so earlier
Gretchen mentioned OREI project. And for our section of this
project it is really focused on the development of 2 different modules one
is going to be on composting practices and the second is on manure use and in these
modules they also are going to have a pretty heavy soil health component
as well and the focus behind these is incorporating new research and
information on soil amendment treatment and handling and we’re really focusing on
sort of because it’s supplemental it’s going to be an add on to the P.S.A.
grower training curriculum so this is really focused for
educators who maybe are looking for an additional subject to talk
about in winter extension. Meetings or maybe if you’re
working on with targeted audiences audiences who are using a lot of
composting or manure practices and they just want additional
examples. Maybe your, and you’re using a multi-day grower training curriculum format and you really want to focus
that second day on soil amendments. So, these are, as I mentioned, they
are going to be adding in research and additional information for example the manure, the manure module is going
to include some of that new OREI research which is really focused on pathogen die outs in manure and incorporating that soil health component as well. And the compost module is going
to be looking at more science so we’re pretty limited in
module 3 in the P.S.A. grower training curriculum about how
deep we can get into that information so we’re going to be talking about the
science behind treatment, why does it work what are we looking for, additional details,
frequently asked questions, maturity and hearing we’re going to sort of define that those are and to kind of go into some of those other details. Next. So in terms of these supplemental modules I did mention
that they’re linked to this project so. And they’re also going to be
really helpful I think for just continuing education so I want to
mention again that these are not a requirement they are completely
supplemental resources. Once they’re finished that will
probably be sometime next year right now they’re being developed they’re
going to go through the pilot stage they will eventually be publicly
available on the P.S.A. website and we are also going to be targeting a couple
of P.S.A. educators called in the future probably next year sometime spring or
summer and we’re also working with the Organic Center to get these modules out to
a different audience really focusing on. I’ll say, for those growers who are using soil on
them and currently And the reason we’re highlighting these here is these are just
one example of potential supplemental resources and as you guys hopefully know
as educators we have a teaching activities section of the website that we’re sort
of trying to constantly populate and I know there’s a couple of other resources
under review some of which are soil amendment based. Any questions there I see Dave put in with a comment that he’s excited OK So
next. So in addition to the supplemental modules
in the development of additional teaching resources we’re also working with
the Southern Center to host some P.S.A. advanced trainer workshops and
the graphic here you see is a is a Save the date and I believe this
is going to be going out in the P.S.A. newsletter pretty shortly this week. And essentially what this is, is a Southern
Center has really been pushing this project forward and
this is intended to be a 3 day program so you’ll see there are 2 dates listed
one is going to be the pilot so I think that December date is going to
have a lot of instructors maybe fewer attendees and
we’re really trying to pilot this program we’re going to pilot the agenda
see what feedback we have and then they already added on that January date to
sort of target the southern region I want to point out that we are hoping to
roll these trainings out regionally so we’re going to see how
the southeast one goes. And then we’re going, we’re going to
work on kind of rolling these out and you’ll see that it is a 3 day program so
this is targeting that advance knowledge it is going to be very work shop
base so as we’ve had planning meetings with the Southern Center we’re really
focusing on the hands on elements so how do you do poor service quality monitoring
how do you actually turn soil amendment. Things like that and I’m really excited
about I think most people are and there’s a lot of collaborators working
on this I think there’s usually 20 or so people on the call so. I think it’ll be really fun once
that what does roll out and I know Caitlin’s information is
there if you have any questions but also I’ll say you can probably reach out
to anybody. Michele Danyluk, Caitlin, any of the P.S.A. folks if you have more questions.
Next. And then the last thing I wanted to
highlight at the end of this call is some of the mentoring
opportunities that we have. At P.S.A. and with a number of our
collaborators so I do want to highlight that there is a need for this continuing
education continuing training and I think that links in with the workshops
that I was just talking about. One of the common deficiencies that we see only
trainer applications when we review them is having applicants who do not have
a lot of training experience so one of the things that we try to do at
P.S.A. is we try to stay available and open so if you are considering
applying to be a lead trainer feel free to contact one of us at P.S.A. and we can try to either connect you with
somebody or co-train with you to help you get some of that training experience
and I will mention here that on the P.S.A. website we do have a public directory so
say you are looking for somebody in your state or in your region
to maybe reach out to collaborate with that’s how I usually use the directory is to
to find me and find contacts in my region. And the other thing I want to mention here
is that we are working to build capacity regionally through a number of
sort of the different networks so we’re working with
the regional centers I just highlighted one of those partnerships
with the Southern Centers. We are working with professional
associations such as IAFP help build capacity, local partnerships, as well as
international coaching activities so again I think the main message I want to
leave here is if you have questions maybe it’s technical assistance you need
to sort of ramp up your training experience a little bit feel free
to reach out to anybody at P.S.A. and we’ll try to work with
you to get that experience. And I also want to mention I think
Gretchen mentioned something about the advanced trainer workshop.
I should say I did not mention earlier that it is a requirement that
every participant has attended the P.S.A. train-the-trainer course and the reason
is that we’re going to be building on the information and produce safety rule requirements that we discuss at the train-the-trainer course so
it’s an advanced course so there is that prerequisite of
having attended train-the-trainer next I think that’s all that I
have Gretchen. Perfect thanks so much to offer that information and Betsy
as well for sharing that info there was a couple good questions and comments that
came in while Donna was presenting one was going back to the discussion about the
online course and the question was related to whether participants who enroll in the
online course receive a printed manual and the answer is yes that is a requirement
of the online course we want them to have the physical manually in hand with the
notes that they can scribble on and take with them even after the course concludes
that is and correct me if I’m wrong Betsy I believe that is already built into
the course fees to have a physical printed manual Yes and they will be eligible for an AFDO certificate as well. Yep. That
was the second part that I want to mention was as long as the participant
completes all of the activities and completes the full course then they will
be eligible for the same AFDO certificate OK at this point I’d like to open
it up to any questions or discussion from the group and I did look
it up it’s if you are called in only on your phone it’s star six to mute and unmute your
line otherwise if you are logged on the zoom online interface you can mute and unmute
your own line. I’ll pause here and see if anybody has any questions. I see that Kristin’s also sharing
some information about videos and presentations that MSU extension and
M Dard worked on and she linked directly to those regarding
soil amendments thank you Kristin for sharing that with everybody and
I’ll put those in the notes as well for those of you who are called in and
can’t see the chat box right now. Is there anything that you guys
think we should be working on or anything else that’s a concern I mean
I think we presented stuff today just to give you updates of where we’re at on a
couple of projects we’re working with but always happy to take questions or
comment outside of what we discussed today All right how’s it going out there is Anything we need to know there? Hey Betsy this is Travis can you hear me? Yes. A question about the online training. Will there be any effort to share with other P.S.A. trainers in
different areas as far as kind of, the attendance of those courses and
where people might be coming from, for example would you have any
way of letting us know if folks from Florida are taking those courses so
we can estimate the demand here. That’s a great, that’s a great question so
are you looking to for names or you just looking for volume.
Just volume.
Yeah we can certainly see. That that’s a good thing
to ask at this point so we can figure out what would be
the process for reporting that. Yeah Betsy, Michele following up, volume and
like number of unique operation so if it’s like 40 people are they
40 people from one farm or they 40 people from 40 different
operations. Okay yeah I think. Rob and Gretchen are probably currently
having heart attacks with me saying this. We can talk about doing that I think we should be
able to do that we’ll just have to figure out how to do it and how to report, you know what I mean, how to report it. Yeah I don’t think the volume should be a challenge I think
unique operations may be a bit challenging just because that information is entered
in sometimes the person might say of I work for Smith Farms incorporated and then
the person sitting next says I work for Smith Farms so it’s hard for us to link
that it’s the same operation I guess we could deduce that from addresses it’s just kind of time consuming but we can definitely consider that. Yeah I think the other thing is we
should think about reporting frequency I mean right now we do other stuff quarterly
so that’s good to put on our radar so that we can talk about it and figure it out.
This is Kara from the national and farmers coalition I
also wonder if it would be helpful to just have zip-codes in part of that reporting so
we know if there are areas that maybe are getting under
reach by regular workshops. I see what your say and yes another good Another good point. Anything else related to that that we should consider
when we’re trying to think about that? To leave my, some of my experience with
the GAPs course I had guys sign up for the online course right when we
were training in their backyard and some of them are just like I can’t
get away I’d rather do it at night I you know I mean? So sometimes it has
nothing to do with availability near them it has to do with their scheduling
but I think that is a good point to see if there is, if there are areas
that aren’t being reached and Betsy I’ll just follow up on this and this is
Michelle Danyluk with another question. So I’m assuming then that P.S.A. will be
teaching all the online courses not like they’re going to allow anyone at
anywhere else to teach an online course. Do you mean teach your own online
courses you need to teach this course. Either
Teaching this course I suspect we, well, depending on demand if this course has a lot of demand we will
be asking for people to help teach it. That I can guarantee you. When we were having
the discussion of to be instructor lead or not instructor lead the P.S.A. team, of some of
them are on the call they can they can they can reinforce, that one of the big
concerns was teaching these courses in very labor intensive and they were very worried that the need and the demand was outstrip
our ability internally so Gretchen, you want to mention that because
I know you were a solid voice when that up. In which camp was that? The camp of “oh my god are we going
to have time to teach all these courses that there’s a lot of demand”
Yeah I mean that was my my concern. Yes. So the deal is this, if
it comes down to it and there’s high demand we absolutely
will be looking for other instructors especially people like you because
I know you have a lot of time and what you’re looking for is more work.
I have all the time, all the time.
Exactly but, we will be looking for more people
to teach that in terms of whether or not you can develop your
own online course I am not going to wade into that water at
all because I think that falls under The F.D.A. equivalent course. I don’t know, does that answer the question?
I think so, yes thank you.
Okay. Okay. There is a comment that someone
just submitted here regarding identifying participants. Another option
might be to send links to the online participants to connect them with local
resources for further information for example connecting Iowa participants
with the team at Iowa state otherwise you might miss out on that
connection and the opportunity for outreach. I think that’s definitely
a great suggestion.
Right and I think I can check but I’m pretty sure
that’s woven into the course in the sense of talking about the regional centers and
talking about that kind of stuff so we absolutely are trying to drive people
to the resources that are near them I have another question that came in here
about who is teaching the online course and is that person a lead trainer or a trainer the people teaching on my course
will be at minimum lead trainers if not trainers of trainers obviously the P.S.A.
team or all trainers of trainers but we may contract with other individuals who
are lead trainers to deliver the course. So it has a similar policy, same policy as
hosting and grower training in person but at least a lead trainer.
Right I also so should say that current when we piloted again using the GAPs online course is
an example, participants will often times wait until the last week to do all their homeworks and then the person who is teaching the course
get stuck with those elements all at the end. This course has way
more element then the GAPs course and so we’re talking about bench-marking and
other things to try and make it an engaged course the whole way
along with people wait till the very end. But yeah there’s a lot of things under
discussion but in terms of who can, who can teach it it has to be at least a lead trainer
because it is a grower training course. And as I said depending on demand we
will be reaching for other instructors. And another interesting question and
this one is related to trainers accessing the online course so it is, will
trainers be able to view this course or use it as a practice tool for
in person trainings. Hmm, that a good.
Yeah I don’t think we had considered that one before. No we hadn’t. One of the things we have
considered and one of the things that we did talk about was all of these
new elements that we’ve created. Allowing people you know sharing those
elements because we spent a lot of time in the development of the element and
and I believe we decided that, that would be perfectly fine to
share those elements so I think that might be something that trainers
are interested in and how we’re going to how we’re going to post those elements and
share I’m not. Saying elements Betsy, are you meaning
like the case studies and the question?
Yep and I mean the quizzes, some of
the quizzes are really nice so if you’re using clickers, I know we have the clicker questions that are in the queue to release but
you know some of those would be good for in person like little quizzes and stuff
that people might find really helpful. And so I know we talked about it but
I didn’t really discuss how we’re going to do that so that should go
on the list actually once it’s approved. Share though so that we know that
you know that they’re solid. That’s actually, that’s a very
good, that’s very good to bring that up. Okay any other questions? Because if not I’ll give you a few
minutes of your afternoon back but before we wrap things up I just wanted
to share that we will be having a meeting next month. It’ll
likely be in late September and focus to Dave Ingram pleasure is
module three soil amendments so we’re going to have two presenters
on the call delivering module three to the audience just as an opportunity for
trainers and lead trainers to hear somebody else present that because there’s always
interesting stories that come from different trainers, methods of delivery
we just haven’t selected a time yet but it will most definitely be after
there’s a North Central soil amendments workshop in early September so it’s going
to be after that because we want to incorporate some of the key learnings from
that into this presentation so look for a notice about the scheduling of that for
late September and as always if you have other suggestions for
topics that you’d like us to cover I saw one come in from Kara via my e-mail
in just a few minutes ago please do send them on to me because we want to tailor
this content to what’s most useful for the groups that just shoot me an email if
there’s a specific topic area or module or content or even speaker that we can invite
for the group. So, again keep an eye out for a late September meeting invite and I also want to mention that I always post
on our website the log-in information so if you happen to miss the email or
lose the email and you’re wondering when the next meeting is going to be it’s
always posted on our website and it’s under resources and then
you drop down to produce safety educators call. And I did see a question come
in hold on one second. So this is a follow up on the Spanish
language train-the-trainer and the, the statement is I wonder if it
be possible to more formally assess demand across the states in addition to
putting out a request via call we’d only have a couple of participants interested
in Minnesota but for the sake of access of increasing the pool of Spanish speaking
farmer trainers available in the US it seems key to have one in the US versus asking
folks to potentially go to Mexico, thanks for considering Yeah well I think. To that point I think if we find out
that what we need to do is to have one in every region just the sort of cover our
bases, I don’t think that’s unreasonable. So I think, you know, let us know if you
think you have a handful of people. We could always run it as an integrated. Which might make it a little
bit more possible in some areas we try to have a minimum of 15 people attend train-the-trainers so we want to, you know we want to
make it worth the time but we haven’t really put effort into doing US based Spanish train-the-trainers
I know we have had we have had them in the past but if this
is coming up as something we really need to get on we can make that happen. So, so I appreciate the input and
just let us know where you’re at and where your interest is and
then we will work to get a calendar.
And that is something to that we might bring
up for those of you who are P.S.A. trainers or lead trainers we will
be having a call on, what did we decide. I’m looking at my calendar right now. October 16th
Right, it’s Donna’s birthday! That’s right. Are annual P.S.A. trainers update webinars going to be at 2 pm on October 16th so that might be
a place that we also can pull for interest in a Spanish train-the-trainer
course but I also wanted to mention it here we’re going to cover many
of the same updates that we did today but probably go into a little more depth
about our future plans so stay tuned for more information about that if you’re
a P.S.A. trainer or lead trainer and the registration is available for that
meeting I’ll put that in the notes as well. Any other questions? Comments? I would just say I’m looking at the number
of people that are on the call we really appreciate you guys taking
the time to join us and all the thoughtful suggestions and putting things on our radar that we’re happy to, to do things
that we know you need them so that’s only possible by you guys
taking time to be on these calls taking time out of your very busy schedule
so I do just want to say thank you for being on these calls and participating and sharing your ideas and your thoughts It allows us to do what we need to do. With that I don’t see any other
questions so I’m going to go ahead and wrap up the call for the day but keep
an eye out I’ll be sending out some notes I’ll post this recording on our website
shortly and we’ll hopefully be talking to you in late September when we send out
an announcement regarding module three for the next educators call. Hope you guys all have a great week and we’ll talk to you soon.
Thanks Gretchen for all the organization.